I always love talking to Matthew Ragan. It's really a pleasure of mine. When you're just getting started in the industry, you have a laugh with friends about how you're trying to do a project without spending money. In the intermediate stages of your career, you have a laugh with co-workers about the horror stories on that last project. Late in your career, you have a laugh with other experts about your own psychology, choices you've made, and the wisdom you've learned over the years. In this post, I wanted to share a piece of golden nugget of wisdom Matthew told me through a fantastic joke, and the moral of the story is "Don't raise goats!"