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Thanks for posting your wine adventures.
That would certainly open up some possibilities if 088 could work that way in Finux.
(Ben S., you are a known troublemaker!
Rod.
Iâve had a similar viewpoint - that broadening the developer palette to several more platforms sounds like a lot of maintenance. But there might be an argument for jumping from âone ship to anotherâ and not going back. Houdini had/has some Linux distros. The way coâs are trying to funnel customers towards a simple interaction with a computer ⌠âpower usersâ will naturally gravitate towards linux/unix.
to cod65 : You sound just like me.
Dang: are you a curmudgeony crank too? God help you
to cod65: Iâm - euphemistically speaking - wincurmudgeony crank only.
May the 4th be with you :)
+1
⌠Linux seems to get more popular, since Valve started porting their Games and doing some open source stuff for this
If TouchDesigner had been available on Linux, we would have adopted it sooner, and would happily abandon Windows.
I can see that casual users find a Windows (or more, Mac) app easier, but are they the main profit driver for derivative?
Bruce
Please do not underestimate the importance of a linux version. Iâve lost multiple days trying to create a stable reproducable production setup on windows. Iâve done this before on linux without any problems. I can literally create an ubuntu boot usb stick, which install a complete kiosk perfectly everytime. Iâm not even able to restore a simple windows backup back to a normal working state. Working with windows requires an immense amount of trial and error. Itâs absolutely great that we now have a working mac version. Letâs go all the way no and go full cross-platform, because for heavy-duty, reproducable, unittestable production setups: windows mean absolute hell.
Just for clarification: Iâm literally begging you to support linux. Iâm not willing to continue using touchdesigner if I have to constantly watch my kiosk system break, because windows is simply not made for that purpose. Linux is completely customizable to the point that the window manager runs nothing but touchplayer.
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Please take this seriously.
Totally agree!
Iâll love to have a linux version since iâve switched to windows just for TouchDesigner!
So please take it seriously!
Many thanks
The Mac version made sense because of the sheer number of Mac users and schools who could jump on more easily, even though I would have personally preferred the focus stay only on Windows. But there arenât those numbers for Linux users, and I feel like most power users are fine on Windows.
Brutesque - what issues are you having? I have bought and built workstations more times than I can count without any issues.
What are some more in-depth reasons for a Linux version? To me it sounds like a lot of âLinux cause I want it, please.â
Hi Elburz, Iâve also built several workstation and servers to manage 24/7 generative contents and videos and connected to the network for supervising also with IPMI to have full remote control, there are no unmanageable issues, but minor things that are OS related, for example:
-the brutal Win10 update policy, (even in the Pro version you cannot disable all updates)
-âŚthis is also overkill when you have a pay per use connection and several servers download gigs and gigs of updates
-âŚAnd that said you need to restart to apply the updates
-USB drivers are not so stable in long term, USB audio devices tend to disconnect sometimes
-virus and ransomware vulnerability, this can be a very showstopper
Linux is the choice for 24/7 server environment since forever, from my point of view since the Derivative guys make a Mac version which is unix based âshouldnât beâ too hard to port into linux
Ya I can definitely sympathize with those issues. Iâve found USB audio drivers to be fine in 24hr situations if you use hardware like RME or MOTU who have their own ASIO drivers and we havenât had any issues with malware in years.
From my point of view though, those are niceties, not deal breakers. Whatâs a deal breaker for me personally would be slowing down development even by 20% to further support another platform just for niceties.
The question is whether 20% of the time stands for professional technology. IMHO TD is not so cheap to not pay the port, maintenance and support - that is, integration into the pro pipeline of large CGI boys. And we small can not sell any solution on Windows or MacOS too. We are waiting for TD on Linux, as the right technology for business, in an automotive segment, for example.
Thatâs exactly what Iâm saying. I would rather the 20% time be spent making a single platform ultra-reliable, feature-rich, and bug free so that it is more âprofessionalâ.
TouchDesigner is quite affordable, especially since you can put an edit license on a dongle for yourself and only sell player licenses to clients.
Do you have a list of issues or examples of why it would be better on Linux? Stefano had a list that I can agree/disagree with.
+1 for Linux version! :ugeek:
I would love a linux version, just because it would allow me to close off one of the reasons that I need to keep windows computers around.
From a user standpoint, I just like the shells of linux and macOS better than windows. Theyâre more unified and task optimized (for me) than windows, which tends to feel like a shambling mess of every part of windowsâ considerable multi-decade legacy overlaid into a weird heterogeneous blob.
All this being the case, I canât make a practical case for investing time and resources in a linux port. Most of the practical deployment benefits you get from building industrial grade systems on linux are the targeted removal of non-essential system parts, and security hardening. These and other benefits can be achieved just as well by running Touch on something like Windows 10 IoT, which lets you disable alot of the userland bits that could interfere with an unattended system.
As for my antipathy towards windows, Iâve had to get cozy with the fact that if youâre going to be someone who uses computers professionally, you have to accept that you donât get to use precisely the computers that you want. Thereâs also the fact that once youâre running your cross-platform applicationâwhether itâs Adobe AE, Touch or whateverâthe applications essentially behave the same.
Iâd be just as happy to continue to plug away at touch projects on my mac and deploy them on windows boxes.
If I could fullscreen the Touch UI on my Windoze workstation the way I can on my mac, that would probably get me most of the way over my windows antipathy as well, since I wouldnât be as grumpy about losing screen real-estate to windowsâ idiotic title bars and start menu.
Def agree, command prompt and powershell feel cludgy to me compared to bash.
An F11 full-screen mode would be quite cool.