Login | Register 
FEATURES
APPLICATIONS
DOWNLOADS
EDUCATION
BLOG
WIKI
FORUM
STORE

Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Still a little green? Ask your beginner's questions here

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby drxian » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:08 am

Thanks Rob, thanks for the explanation and some Good points there..
drxian
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:29 pm

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby TomEllard » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:49 am

As a beginner what I'm missing is a top down description of what Touch Designer does. The Wiki is bottom up - this cog does this, that lever controls that. I need also a design philosophy.

Example - trying to create a rectangle on screen, simple experiment. I have tried all kinds of TOPs because where I am coming from the same principle that would input an image or generate noise would generate a shape. (I'm coming from analogue video where I would try a square wave). But after banging around I think it's better done with 3D objects, but I'm really not sure. That's a 'top down' design flow.

What is the flow of working? I see it being used in the tutorials and I can emulate it but for a designer to explain it would be great.

Another request is that I be able to make the Wiki into printable sections, not just printable pages. That means I can read a bunch of related information while away from the computer and get a 'big picture'.

Thanks.
TomEllard
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:47 pm

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby ben » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:21 pm

Thanks for your suggestions Tom. We found a lot of new user in our workshop say the same thing, good documentation but no description of where to start. We're looking at it and considering what it will take, its not an overnight fix.

We are also working on an offline version of the documentation for when you are not online, I'll be sure to bring up the need for printing when this is implemented.

Cheers
User avatar
ben
Staff
 
Posts: 2250
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Toronto

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby rurik » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:07 pm

One other thing I'm noticing now, spending more and more time with Touch, is the lack of clear learning path for scripting and expressions.
Seems like things can be done in different ways, and maybe a project that breaks down how a TUIK element is created or something of the sort would be very helpful

Alex
---
Touch Designer Pro 088
Windows 7 - 8 Core- 8 gigs RAM - Nvidia GTX 560
rurik
 
Posts: 258
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:04 am

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby rodberry » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:32 am

Just throwing this in for the designers of TouchDesigner as it is a great article on how to make a programming environment and a language more understandable and learnable.

http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/

I think Touch, with its viewers in tiles, is potentially amazing for learning. I think that, that the concepts outlined in the article should be taken to heart by anyone making something like TouchDesigner.

rod.
User avatar
rodberry
 
Posts: 1080
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:51 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby snd » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:01 pm

Interesting thread!

I guess you guys will soon read a post by me. Still have to explore first though..
snd
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:41 am

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby snd » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:06 pm

TomEllard wrote:Another request is that I be able to make the Wiki into printable sections, not just printable pages. That means I can read a bunch of related information while away from the computer and get a 'big picture'.


Now that would be amazing. To be able to print out, just like TomEllard wrote, sections depending on where you are in the learning stage. Maybe convert sections as PDF-files and import them to your smartphone or tablet.
snd
 
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:41 am

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby manoeuvre » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:29 pm

1) Building a simple character and setting up simple control rig
Nothing nuts, just simple modeling with pulling a few points around, and maybe shape animate it, or Lattice, or single IK chain.

I really wish there was more character animation examples. I really need an explanation of how a pre-rigged/skinned model can be imported into touch, then control rigged and manipulated. I would really love to be able to do kinect puppeting but I really can't get my head around IK/Skinning/Bones in TD.
User avatar
manoeuvre
 
Posts: 27
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:19 am
Location: Australia

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby ben » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:50 pm

Almost all of the character animation done in TouchDesigner is via FBX models imported from other packages such as Maya, Cinema4D, Houdini, etc. As you have found, the modeling tools in TouchDesigner are limited with respect to character creation. We don't have plans to spend too much time overhauling these tools for character work as there are already more mature packages available which are the go to favourites for character setup.

However, we will continue to improve the learning materials and features for general modeling and the included 3D tools.
User avatar
ben
Staff
 
Posts: 2250
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Toronto

Re: Help Needed: Difficult Things to Learn for Beginners

Postby ben » Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:08 am

Have you checked out the OP Snippets in recent builds? They are found under the Help menu can consist of hundreds of examples of OPs in action. The more popular OPs are covered now, but we'll continue to add examples to this until every OP has a few examples.

OP Snippets is available in the new official build 23400 just posted, or any of the experimental builds from the last couple of months.

We hope you find them helpful, comments welcome.
User avatar
ben
Staff
 
Posts: 2250
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Toronto

PreviousNext

Return to Beginners

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 10 guests