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Max for Live to TouchDesigner Utility

Helpful techniques for working with TouchDesigner. Answers only, no questions.

Max for Live to TouchDesigner Utility

Postby les » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:34 pm

When using Live to control TD, one can certainly use MIDI notes and controllers.

For controllers, however, it's more convenient to use the envelopes in Live's MIDI clips, since you can edit real names and scaled values. Below is the Max compressed version for a Max for Live device that shows a technique I've been playing with. Just copy the compressed text, open a new MFL MIDI device, paste, and save. In this example, the envelope in the clip editor is named "opacity", and TD should receive the OSC message "/opacity <value>".

Basically you build a MIDI device on your track in Ableton, using Max's Live objects, give them names so they'll show up nice in the clip's envelope editor, and send their name and value to an OSC in CHOP.

How does this work for you? Any ideas for improvements?

Best wishes,
Les




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Re: Max for Live to TouchDesigner Utility

Postby armonico » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:58 am

Why didn't I think it before instead of using midi notes and midi control change?

It would be useful to change the name with gui.
I tried without success. I am able to change it but Live continues with the old name it gets at instantiation time.

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</code></pre>



How I could change the name at instantiation time with, for example, the track name?

Thanks you,
arm
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Re: Max for Live to TouchDesigner Utility

Postby hrtlacek » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:38 am

Althought this would probably better discussed on the cycling74 forums:
You need to enable "Parameter Mode" for max objects (such as your [textedit]) if you want live to have access to its status (so it is saved with the live set.
To get the name of the track (which is really handy for OSC addresses) look at the help of the Live API and LOM (Live Object model), which can be found in the max/msp help system.
cheers!
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Re: Max for Live to TouchDesigner Utility

Postby les » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:29 am

Thanks for checking it out! It's a work in progress....

Yes, armonico, as far as I can tell, there is no way to change the name of a parameter once the device is loaded.

For now, this technique might be useful if you knew what you wanted to control in TD, so you could build a custom MFL device for that setup.
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Re: Max for Live to TouchDesigner Utility

Postby cubanb95@gmail.com » Sun May 21, 2017 5:13 am

Have you ever tried live grabber? it was made for vdmx but works fine with TD
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